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    So removing tethering apps is tantamount to an attack on the country. Got it.

    That being said, I don't agree with verizon's position, but Fetus, you're cracking me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFetus View Post
    Look it Verizon knows exactly what there doing. I posted previously weeks before that Verizon has been breaking the law not just violating FCC regulation. As I posted action was going be taking against them which as you seen from this gentlemen post is the start to thing to come. The recently adapted cyberattack law Verizon has clearly this time been caught with the goods. As was reported in other post on the tether block even when using third party apps,most of you saw your browser open up stating in short hey were Verizon we know your tethering. That right there put them with the likes of hackers and the Chinese in which the Congress said they were trying to stop. Verizon willfully and knowingly hijacked your personal OS. The best part of this is they clearly violated artical 51 of the UN charter. Now the world will also file charges. What's some of you get tripping about is they took my tether what you should be telling about is you violated my privacy and maliciously hacked my system, I hope when the class action case comes which it is that each one of you jump on the ship and be part of the largest class action case against Verizon also in talks is the bait and switch tactics which again Verizon has been involved with. Those who say you signed the contract scheme. I only say this the contact is void if laws were broke to establish the contract. This are my expressed opinions and Verizon has the right to be judge in the court of law.

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    What they're doing is really no different than what the cyber crime division does to catch seeders on Limewire or BitTorrent... or even pedophiles downloading children's pornography... and no one has a problem when it comes to them using it for that. They are being forced to use trackers because you're breaking the law and they need a way to catch people doing it. Just pay the damn money or don't use it... but don't go around saying they're breaking the law... because even if they are... so are you. It would be one thing if a free wireless tether app got released and everyone started using it and everyone got their sh*t cancelled because Verizon released it to trick people into breaking the law... that's entrapment... using a tracker to catch people stealing a service is not.. and if it somehow breaks some sort of law... it shouldn't.

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    My bad I forgot I was surrounded by Verizon hacks. Watch the news boys watch the news.

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    Lol I don't think that disagreeing with you about VZW commiting an act of war makes us "Verizon hacks" I believe it makes us "not drama queens"

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    Haha all I can say is Holy Crap! Lolz

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    OMG this thread is cracking me up.

    I blutooth tether so they can pull whatever the hell they want to off the market.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Getsome122 View Post
    OMG this thread is cracking me up.

    I blutooth tether so they can pull whatever the hell they want to off the market.



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    haha this is funny I've probably read it a few times. Then again in college in my government classes and world policy classes I heard all of this before

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFetus View Post
    My bad I forgot I was surrounded by Verizon hacks. Watch the news boys watch the news.

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    Nah man. In fact, I would dare say most of us are in disagreement with verizon's tethering policies. Your statements are just a bit extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow02 View Post
    Nah man. In fact, I would dare say most of us are in disagreement with verizon's tethering policies. Your statements are just a bit extreme.
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    Honestly I don't think it's going to happen. There is missing information there as far as where they say they have stand point. Like the whole "can't restrict" part.....check this out. It's a quote I took from Android Police....I know it's long

    If you’ve been watching the blogosphere over the last few days, you might have seen an article or two about a "complaint" filed with the FCC over Verizon’s block on tethering applications in the Android Market.

    The complainant’s argument goes something like this: Verizon purchased the 700MHz spectrum ("block C" of the spectrum) back in 2007, and that spectrum is now used by Verizon for its 4G LTE service. That purchase, ala Google and other net neutrality lobbyists, came with one seemingly large caveat: Verizon (or AT&T, or anyone who bought in that spectrum) could not "deny, limit, or restrict" the phones using that spectrum in particular ways: phones must be carrier unlocked, able to access all parts of the web, and run any software. At least, in theory. If you want it straight from the source, here’s Free Press’s (the consumer advocacy group filing the complaint) interpretation of things:

    As a condition of Verizon’s license for the C Block of the upper 700 MHz block, Verizon and similar broadband providers using the spectrum are not permitted to “deny, limit, or restrict” the ability of their customers to use the applications or devices of their choosing. Recent reports reveal that Verizon has been doing just that by asking Google to disable tethering applications in the Android Market. Tethering applications, which allow users to make their phones into mobile hot-spots, implicate both the customers’ ability to use both the applications and devices of their choice.

    These conditions were called "Carterfone protections," and since day one they have been roundly (and rightly) criticized as damn near useless in actually effectuating their purpose. Here’s what Susan P. Crawford (a major supporter of net neutrality) had to say about them:

    The no-locking, no-blocking requirements are hedged in by substantial limitations: the winning licensee will be able to lock and block devices and applications as long as they can show that their actions are related to "reasonable network management and protection," or "compliance with applicable regulatory requirements." In other words, as long as the discrimination can be shown to be connected (however indirectly) to some vision of ‘network management,’ it will be permitted." (Emphasis ours)


    Now, how do these loopholes reconcile with the neutrality provisions cited by Free Press? They don’t, really. Actually, they all but cancel out the Carterfone protections. A carrier merely has to present the argument to the FCC that tethering (or any software/hardware modification) interferes with or harms the carrier’s network management or security efforts, and provide some rudimentary vehicle for that argument – there is no requirement of proof.

    Tethering apps don’t stand a chance against these exceptions to the rule, particularly in Verizon’s case. With the vast majority of its smartphone customers currently on unlimited data plans, there’s even a hint of merit in Verizon’s argument that it needs to control access to tethering to prevent end-user abuse of that "unlimited" data, even if that abuse is only committed by a very small number of individuals. That argument alone is a "winner." In the future, though, Verizon won’t have unlimited data, so how’s that going to work?

    For tiered data plans, you might think things would get a little hazier, but "network security and management" provides another easy out – unauthorized tethering allows unauthorized devices (eg, your laptop) to access Verizon’s network. Voila. It could also just as easily be argued that unauthorized tethering software could cause people to leave their phones with unsecure hotspots open, exposing Verizon’s network (and that somehow the carrier tethering option stops that), or something else utterly unlikely. Basically, any argument Verizon could make that leads to the statement "… and this prevents us from operating and/or securing our network exactly how we want to" will hold water.

    And the same points can be used against rooting, unlocking, or using custom software. It’s a little depressing, really. But it’s the present reality of the way the rules are written.

    These arguments sound ridiculous and dodgy to us, but the FCC will probably eat them up, because they’re all certainly possible scenarios. And then there’s the millions the carriers spent in lobbying to get those loophole provisions worded just as they wanted them.

    Is Verizon being kind of shady about this whole affair? Yep, and that’s not cool. Are they within their rights to do it? Most likely.
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