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wicked
04-29-2011, 04:10 PM
It’s a sad, sad day when we can’t use the data that we pay for in a manner that we choose – but that day has arrived. It seems that somebody (perhaps carriers?) are blocking the ability to install Wireless Tether (https://market.android.com/details?id=android.tether) in the Android Market. This is what you get if you try to install it:


http://i.imgur.com/EuSxx.png



You can see that while it’s still in the Market, it’s not available for installation on any carrier-connected device. Most of the well known tethering apps have made the carrier blacklist, such as Wireless Tether and PDAnet, but there are some lesser known ones that are still available. Even if you’re not sure that you’ll ever use it, I suggest you go get one now before they all go the way of the dinosaur (on the Market, anyway).

*Sprint customers seem to be an exception and are still able to install these apps through the Market but VZW, T-Mo, and AT&T are definitely blocking.

Android Police (http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/29/carrier-crackdown-tethering-apps-are-being-blocked-in-the-android-market/#comment-97500)

mikeinrichmond
04-29-2011, 04:20 PM
So folks, do you still think that VZW doesn't care if you are tethering without paying the extra $$? Seems pretty clear to me that they are going for the full-court press now...

mikeinrichmond
04-29-2011, 04:34 PM
For anyone still on Froyo that still needs it, Wireless Tether can still be had from the developers site for free:

wireless_tether_2_0_7.apk - android-wifi-tether - Wireless Tether for Root Users 2.0.7 - Wireless Tether for Root Users - Google Project Hosting (http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wireless_tether_2_0_7.apk&can=2&q=)

WugFresh
04-29-2011, 04:59 PM
I predicted this day would come.
Tethering Repository (folder) (http://www.megaupload.com/?f=DTWZM3QV)

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wicked
04-29-2011, 06:30 PM
I predicted this day would come.
Tethering Repository (folder) (http://www.megaupload.com/?f=DTWZM3QV)

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Might be a good idea to remove the TBH patch link off that no? :omg:

akoe101
04-29-2011, 06:53 PM
Is there tethering apps in the amazon store? And if so would they get removed?

mikeinrichmond
04-29-2011, 06:58 PM
Is there tethering apps in the amazon store? And if so would they get removed?

I never tried to get Wireless Tether from Amazon, so I don't know if it was there before, but it's not there now. They still have EasyTether for $10, never used it but from the product info, it sounds like a USB wired method like PDAnet...

akoe101
04-29-2011, 07:09 PM
Yeah i believe its a usb tether app. Have you tried wired methods to tether on gb? I really want to get back on gb but i use tethering too often to make a permanent move to gb

WugFresh
04-29-2011, 07:10 PM
Might be a good idea to remove the TBH patch link off that no? :omg:

Nah.. lol. :)

If people use it though.. it's at their own risk. GB is different than froyo and can track usage. For those on GB and still want wifi tether might want to consider freezing datamanagerservice.apk (just some advice... not saying that it is bulletproof...)

but honestly... the safest method (besides paying for it) is to use PDAnet or EasyTether and then set it up through a VPN. If you use the free version of PDAnet and set it up through a VPN, then you will be able to visit https webpages... so you will effectively have the same functionality as the paid version.... but I almost feel guilty posting that... That would literally be avoiding to pay for an app that helps you avoid to pay for service. LOL. That's a little much if you ask me...

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cookieluvr
04-29-2011, 07:43 PM
:mad2:You mean now that I finally took the plunge and rooted my phone so I could use the hotspot now I can't? I'm still on froyo, does that make a difference, I already have wireless tether on my phone.

mikeinrichmond
04-29-2011, 07:52 PM
:mad2:You mean now that I finally took the plunge and rooted my phone so I could use the hotspot now I can't? I'm still on froyo, does that make a difference, I already have wireless tether on my phone.

If you are on Froyo, Wireless Tether will still work...No need for the 3G Hotspot app.

fc127
04-29-2011, 07:53 PM
Barnacle is still available... I grabbed it just in case anyone needs it.

Sent from my Gingy DX

WugFresh
04-29-2011, 07:56 PM
Barnacle is still available... I grabbed it just in case anyone needs it.

Sent from my Gingy DX

It's included in this already:
Tethering Repository (folder) (http://www.megaupload.com/?f=DTWZM3QV)

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fc127
04-29-2011, 07:58 PM
It's included in this already:
Tethering Repository (folder) (http://www.megaupload.com/?f=DTWZM3QV)

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Ok, thanks. I wasn't sure as my phone wasn't playing nicely with the megaupload folders.

Thanks for your dedication, Wug!

Sent from my Gingy DX

WugFresh
04-29-2011, 08:02 PM
Ok, thanks. I wasn't sure as my phone wasn't playing nicely with the megaupload folders.

Thanks for your dedication, Wug!

Sent from my Gingy DX

No problem, thank you for grabbing that just in case. :)
I think you need flash player installed for megaupload to come up properly.

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cookieluvr
04-29-2011, 08:14 PM
If you are on Froyo, Wireless Tether will still work...No need for the 3G Hotspot app.

Thanks so much for the quick response. I usually just lurk and read everything I can. I have to say I have gotten so much help on here!!

WugFresh
04-29-2011, 08:15 PM
To make it easier for people....

android.tether-1.apk (401.02 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HVB94C7C) - Wireless Tether latest release
wifi_tether_v3_0-pre14.apk (358.87 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y91YBLVP) - Wireless Tether latest beta release
net.szym.barnacle-1.apk (129.51 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PLT252D4) - Barnacle wireless tether
com.pdanet-1.apk (113.24 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D59ELVCJ) - PDAnet (usb tethering*)

com.guardam.androidTetherLite-1.apk (116.58 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WNWRX656) - Free wireless tethering app I have never tried
com.USB-1.apk (84.25 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BVAK6BE3) - Free usb tethering app I have never tried

TBH_DX_Tether_Patch_1.0.zip (161.27 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GNARSK5A) - 3G hotspot patch
TBH_DX_Tether_Unpatch_1.0.zip (161.1 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=046Y0X9T) - 3G hotspot unpatch
(for the patches; flash in clockwork recovery)

*USB tethering: unlike wireless tethering this shows up as normal data usage, so this is honestly the safest option (besides paying for it). If you set it up through a VPN it would be even safer.

Use at your own risk, understand that tethering violates TOS. Gingerbread tracks data usage (differentiates between tethering and normal data usage) and probably reports it (guess). If you plan on doing it anyway, then you might want to consider freezing datamangerservice.apk with TitaniumBackup or changing its file name extension to bak with Root Explorer (not saying this is bulletproof... but it stops the on-device recording...so....:rolleyes:)

Considering they are pulling apps now... the next step is addressing the customers directly.... realize that.

{{ WugFresh }}

akoe101
04-29-2011, 09:17 PM
To make it easier for people....

android.tether-1.apk (401.02 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HVB94C7C) - Wireless Tether latest release
wifi_tether_v3_0-pre14.apk (358.87 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y91YBLVP) - Wireless Tether latest beta release
net.szym.barnacle-1.apk (129.51 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PLT252D4) - Barnacle wireless tether
com.pdanet-1.apk (109.32 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0YCV3ACN) - PDAnet (usb tethering*)

com.guardam.androidTetherLite-1.apk (116.58 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WNWRX656) - Free wireless tethering app I have never tried
com.USB-1.apk (84.25 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BVAK6BE3) - Free usb tethering app I have never tried

TBH_DX_Tether_Patch_1.0.zip (161.27 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GNARSK5A) - 3G hotspot patch
TBH_DX_Tether_Unpatch_1.0.zip (161.1 KB) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=046Y0X9T) - 3G hotspot unpatch
(for the patches; flash in clockwork recovery)

*USB tethering: unlike wireless tethering this shows up as normal data usage, so this is honestly the safest option (besides paying for it). If you set it up through a VPN it would be even safer.

Use at your own risk, understand that tethering violates TOS. Gingerbread tracks data usage (differentiates between tethering and normal data usage) and probably reports it (guess). If you plan on doing it anyway, then you might want to consider freezing datamangerservice.apk with TitaniumBackup or changing its file name extension to bak with Root Explorer (not saying this is bulletproof... but it stops the on-device recording...so....:rolleyes:)

Considering they are pulling apps now... the next step is addressing the customers directly.... realize that.

{{ WugFresh }}


Thanks for this wug! This will help me out tons

dirtbikes4fun02
04-29-2011, 09:21 PM
on my dads at&t android i just turned it on airplane mode. then i turned on the wifi and went to the market and none of the apps were blocked because the cellular service was off and i was going straight through the wifi.
just a lil backdoor trick. im not sure if it still works. somebody give it a shot and let everybody know.

WugFresh
04-29-2011, 09:26 PM
on my dads at&t android i just turned it on airplane mode. then i turned on the wifi and went to the market and none of the apps were blocked because the cellular service was off and i was going straight through the wifi.
just a lil backdoor trick. im not sure if it still works. somebody give it a shot and let everybody know.

can you try downloading and installing wireless tether? That would be a cool trick. No wifi around me at the moment to test it.

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rootedwiley
04-29-2011, 11:11 PM
Ha thats why im glad i already have one installed already. i noticed just yesterday that alot of them had been taken down from the market.

zoe
04-30-2011, 01:41 PM
http://tapatalk.com/mu/d849d6f9-57ab-6e04.jpg

wifi & airplane trick not working for me on vzw...

ereh seog erutangis

DroidXDoes
04-30-2011, 05:44 PM
Can't you use Barnacle?

It works fine for me.

zoe
04-30-2011, 06:23 PM
Can't you use Barnacle?

It works fine for me.

yes barnacle is still showing, I was only testing a previously mentioned trick to get around the carrier market filtering/blocking to see if pdanet would show as being available

ereh seog erutangis

07aspenx
04-30-2011, 08:04 PM
Well wifi tether is blocked now if you use the app. I never use it until today for an emergency and I got the verizon page saying to pay for the service. Oh well.

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

skennelly
04-30-2011, 08:05 PM
Well wifi tether is blocked now if you use the app. I never use it until today for an emergency and I got the verizon page saying to pay for the service. Oh well.

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

You must be on GB?

07aspenx
04-30-2011, 08:14 PM
Yes sir. Even tried barnacle just for kicks and didn’t work. No biggie since again I don't tether. I was selling my tablet and the buyer wanted to test tethering and I thought it would still work. He still bought it after he saw the verizon page lol?

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

WugFresh
04-30-2011, 08:48 PM
yeah. for any wireless tethering on GB you would need to patch.... but that is at your own discretion..

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skennelly
05-01-2011, 05:18 AM
I rarely tether. I stay under 5gb of data/month and less than 20% is from tethering. But, I won't switch to gb until I know for certain we can tether. I don't use it much, but when I need to use it, it is great having it. $20/mo is too expensive when I only tether less than 1 gb of data/mo. Liberty 2.0.1 is great and I have no desire to have gb.

cmurf70
05-01-2011, 07:22 AM
on my dads at&t android i just turned it on airplane mode. then i turned on the wifi and went to the market and none of the apps were blocked because the cellular service was off and i was going straight through the wifi.
just a lil backdoor trick. im not sure if it still works. somebody give it a shot and let everybody know.

Maybe just a saved image of the last time you visited the market...

red
05-01-2011, 12:06 PM
Ok, Now I have a few questions: If you have only added the z4 root to you droidx and have an wireless tethering icon, will they be able to stop you from tethering.I am running the 2.2.1 android version and the system version 2.3.340.mb810.version.en.us , (what ever that is) Do I have any upcoming issues with big red?

hawkerpilot05
05-01-2011, 01:54 PM
The latest version of pdanet 3.0 allows you to check a box to allow you to hide tether usage. It only does wireless tether via bluetooth but i use it for wired tethering and works great.

ashpdwinDX
05-01-2011, 05:24 PM
The airplane mode bypass trick didn't work for me either.

I did find a tethering app in the market called "a wifi tether ap mesh client" or short is "open garden wifi tether". Its basically the exact same thing as wifi tether for root users it just has a few things changed. And this was over 3g not wifi btw. It works perfect so far

WugFresh
05-02-2011, 09:52 AM
The latest version of pdanet 3.0 allows you to check a box to allow you to hide tether usage. It only does wireless tether via bluetooth but i use it for wired tethering and works great.

http://phandroid.com/2011/05/02/pdanet-3-0-adds-feature-to-help-mask-tethering-use-but-verizon-users-may-be-out-of-luck/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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jerofld
05-02-2011, 10:28 AM
Seems like a pretty weak way of thwarting 'illegal' tethering...by switching on and off USB Debugging. It seems that Verizon would be making an APK that does this. They should also know that in order to 'illegally' tether, a user must be rooted. They should also know that a rooted user can freeze APKs.

/boggle

WugFresh
05-02-2011, 09:34 PM
Seems like a pretty weak way of thwarting 'illegal' tethering...by switching on and off USB Debugging. It seems that Verizon would be making an APK that does this. They should also know that in order to 'illegally' tether, a user must be rooted. They should also know that a rooted user can freeze APKs.

/boggle

That is actually not the case with PDAnet. No root required. It is a pretty slick little app.

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JNEHAMA
05-02-2011, 10:17 PM
Just an fyi for anyone who want easy tether. It is available on Amazon, but my understanding is it only works on froyo not gingerbread.

Sent from my DROIDX using Droid X Forums

trancedroid
05-02-2011, 10:37 PM
I have the same question as Red, CAN anyone asnwer that. please!

WugFresh
05-03-2011, 05:20 AM
Ok, Now I have a few questions: If you have only added the z4 root to you droidx and have an wireless tethering icon, will they be able to stop you from tethering.I am running the 2.2.1 android version and the system version 2.3.340.mb810.version.en.us , (what ever that is) Do I have any upcoming issues with big red?

No. Your straight, just as long as you don't tether like 50GB+

Froyo does not have the tracking capabilities that GB has. And even if it did (which it doesn't) they still wouldn't do anything unless you were in the top percentile of data users... and even then they wouldn't do anything besides send you a letter, which hasn't even been reported to have happened yet. Vzn has no interest in picking direct battles with individual customers, but rather are looking for ways to more effectively hinder tether usage without pay in a broader and more overarching matter. Hence doing things like removing tethering apps from the market. They are trying to significantly reduce it. By tethering still though, you should be aware that you are effectively perpetuating their problem.. but in the end they are not coming after you, they are going to try and attack it at the source, through technological advances and possibly policy reforms.

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skennelly
05-03-2011, 05:22 AM
Ok, Now I have a few questions: If you have only added the z4 root to you droidx and have an wireless tethering icon, will they be able to stop you from tethering.I am running the 2.2.1 android version and the system version 2.3.340.mb810.version.en.us , (what ever that is) Do I have any upcoming issues with big red?

The question isn't can they stop you because they cannot. I think the question is, can they detect it? I think the majority says that on froyo, it can't be detected, but that has yet to oe proven either way.

WugFresh
05-03-2011, 05:39 AM
According to the information I received regarding their tracking capabilities, there was no information included regarding OS dependence... all I was informed was that they can send simple data packets to our devices to easily determine if we are tethering or not. However... even knowing this... I still don't think it can be done on Froyo.

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doronster195
05-06-2011, 02:45 AM
Use at your own risk, understand that tethering violates TOS. Gingerbread tracks data usage (differentiates between tethering and normal data usage) and probably reports it (guess). If you plan on doing it anyway, then you might want to consider freezing datamangerservice.apk with TitaniumBackup or changing its file name extension to bak with Root Explorer (not saying this is bulletproof... but it stops the on-device recording...so....:rolleyes:)

Considering they are pulling apps now... the next step is addressing the customers directly.... realize that.


Freezing Data Manager Service.apk was GENIUS. I literally tried everything short of the hotspot hack. I'm on stock Droid X firmware, do i have anything to worry about at this point? I'm just happy i can tether my Transformer again!

Snow02
05-06-2011, 06:53 AM
Wug, really? Smh.

WugFresh
05-06-2011, 11:55 PM
Wug, really? Smh.

I'm sorry. Bad judgement call? Idk, I really don't have any moral guilt when it comes to this... I personally don't even tether.. but I'm not into being secretive or withholding information... even its kinda sketchy... My fault if you are actually pissed. I probably should have messaged you first.

::guilty face::

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skyshadow
05-07-2011, 12:05 AM
I have absolutely no guilt when tethering. Im sick of these huge companies being like "boo-hoo now that people know how to tether we wont make as much money" as if they really need another golden bathtub or private jet. Good for you wug for supporting us people who need to tether but can afford an extra 20-50 bucks a month. And honestly we are paying for unlimited data its up to us on how we use it!

http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/

WugFresh
05-07-2011, 12:10 AM
Freezing Data Manager Service.apk was GENIUS. I literally tried everything short of the hotspot hack. I'm on stock Droid X firmware, do i have anything to worry about at this point? I'm just happy i can tether my Transformer again!

Maybe a good idea to only do it on a per usage basis. It might be bad to have it frozen all the time. If someone were slick, they could probably write a little sl4a script initiated by tasker to rename datamanagerservice.apk's extension to bak and then revert it back to apk whenever you started or terminated your tethering program.

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WugFresh
05-07-2011, 12:23 AM
@skyshadow,

I think snow is more pissed that I released that info without asking him first for permission... He is the one to thank about the datamanagerservice.apk freeze trick, not me... but I don't think he wanted me to go about releasing that info publicly. I feel guilty now. Honestlly... my bad... i'm sorry snow. I am not trying to take any credit, I just wanted to release the info. I didn't mention you exclusively in my post because you seemed to have reservations regarding being associated with exploits and what not... probably because you are a more morally grounded individual then I am.

I'm sorry for not really considering the consequences. I am just more so of the reckless hacker type... plus what good is your discovery if no one can use it? Why just me? That's not fair..

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Snow02
05-07-2011, 12:48 AM
Well. The issue is you can delete the data usage database and freeze data manager service to keep it from being re-created. If they were hip to that far enough in advance of the ota, they could very easily build in the database creation with an essential app you can't freeze.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. I don't care one way or the other. :shrug: The ota release is apparently done at this point anyways.

wicked
05-07-2011, 03:33 AM
Freezing Data Manager Service.apk was GENIUS. I literally tried everything short of the hotspot hack. I'm on stock Droid X firmware, do i have anything to worry about at this point? I'm just happy i can tether my Transformer again!

You have a Transformer? Did you order it on launch date? Where at?
Be sure to check out our sister site dedicated to the Asus Transformer at Asus Transformer Tablet Forum :excited:
(http://www.transformerforums.com/)

250 or point 65
05-07-2011, 10:42 AM
I changed the extension of datamanagerservice.apk but i still can't use wifi tether or usb tether. Whenever I connect I get the Verizon "do you wanna buy our tethering" website. does DMService.apk have anything to do with that? Do I still need to use the TBH patch?

Vidfinnx
05-07-2011, 11:07 AM
Does
Bluetooth tethering record? It doesn't start my hotpot?


Sent from my Zombiestomped DROID X

technopeasant
05-07-2011, 11:36 AM
I'm ignorant of most of what's going on inside my phone, I'll admit that right up front. But I had a thought I've not seen discussed in regards to free tethering (which has worked just fine for me, though I don't particularly need or use it).
The thought is this:
Isn't it likely that Verizon simply doesn't have the bandwidth to support a great deal of tethering? If they did, you'd expect their network wouldn't shut down when there's some sort of local emergency and everyone jumps on the phone to talk about Godzilla walking down the street.
If the goal were to sell tethering, the Verizon pricing seems counter intuitive. For example, if they were to significantly undercut landline DSL (which is not available from Verizon in my area), I'd switch in a heartbeat. No doubt everyone would jump onto that bandwagon, and then the wheels would collapse. I suspect they're cracking down on free tethering apps not for the purpose of forcing customers toward legitimate tethering so much as just limiting tethering in general.

Apologizing in advance if this seems like a dumb idea. Heh.

Snow02
05-07-2011, 12:09 PM
I changed the extension of datamanagerservice.apk but i still can't use wifi tether or usb tether. Whenever I connect I get the Verizon "do you wanna buy our tethering" website. does DMService.apk have anything to do with that? Do I still need to use the TBH patch?

Yeah you still need the patch.

cleopete
05-07-2011, 12:26 PM
So folks, do you still think that VZW doesn't care if you are tethering without paying the extra $$? Seems pretty clear to me that they are going for the full-court press now...

I doubt anyone thought VZ didn't care about missing an opportunity to squeeze a few more nickels and dimes out of it's beleaguered customers. Please don't expect tears for a company (actually the whole industry) that has the gall to charge a "Federal Access Fee" that isn't a tax. They have been robbing us for decades, if I can get anything back, I certainly will. I don't even use the tether, but I'll still spend way too much time trying to make it work. It's the principal damnit.

Scrapy McSlappy
05-07-2011, 02:06 PM
I changed the extension of datamanagerservice.apk but i still can't use wifi tether or usb tether. Whenever I connect I get the Verizon "do you wanna buy our tethering" website. does DMService.apk have anything to do with that? Do I still need to use the TBH patch?

I think you need the patch. I used mine to tether yesterday and had no problems. It still brings up the tether or hotspot is active thing but I can use either wifi tether or hotspot and it works flawlessly.

_________________________________
Sent from my DX in the middle of the swamp on my A.T.L. (All Terrain Llama) eating fresh baked Gingerbread.

Asharad
05-07-2011, 07:45 PM
If type 0 is considered tethering, then the dB isn't working properly. I am not tethering, and all of my usage today is type 0.

I have only had GB for the last 9 hours. The dB lists all of today's data as type 0, except for one entry.

9 hours ago, install GB 595
5 hours ago, I started playing with the tether APK, but I never actually tethered.
3 hours ago, I installed the TBH hack
1 hour ago, I uninstalled both TBH hack and the tether apk
At this moment I have nothing on my phone that would let me tether. All entries are 0, except one during the middle of the day.

skennelly
05-07-2011, 07:58 PM
If type 0 is considered tethering, then the dB isn't working properly. I am not tethering, and all of my usage today is type 0.

I have only had GB for the last 9 hours. The dB lists all of today's data as type 0, except for one entry.

9 hours ago, install GB 595
5 hours ago, I started playing with the tether APK, but I never actually tethered.
3 hours ago, I installed the TBH hack
1 hour ago, I uninstalled both TBH hack and the tether apk
At this moment I have nothing on my phone that would let me tether. All entries are 0, except one during the middle of the day.

I think 1 is tethering. One way to check would be to tether & see what changes.

Asharad
05-07-2011, 08:03 PM
I think 1 is tethering. One way to check would be to tether & see what changes.

Hrm, previous twitter posts led me to believe 0 was tether. Oh well, I'm not planning on it now that I've got GB. I'm looking at the VZW air cards to replace my satellite ISP. But I'd need 4 cards. Pricey. They need a family plan for air cards.

mikeinrichmond
05-11-2011, 05:55 AM
Don't know if this could apply to our phones, but an interesting read anyway:

How AT&T Tracks Unauthorized Tethering On Your Jailbroken iPhone, And How To Hide It From Them | Redmond Pie (http://www.redmondpie.com/how-att-tracks-unauthorized-tethering-on-your-jailbroken-iphone-and-how-to-hide-it-from-them/)

Dustin0308
05-11-2011, 06:35 AM
Don't know if this could apply to our phones, but an interesting read anyway:

How AT&T Tracks Unauthorized Tethering On Your Jailbroken iPhone, And How To Hide It From Them | Redmond Pie (http://www.redmondpie.com/how-att-tracks-unauthorized-tethering-on-your-jailbroken-iphone-and-how-to-hide-it-from-them/)

interesting. Nice find. We will see what our options are I'm sure.

LiBeRtY TWOpointZEROpointONE

skennelly
05-11-2011, 08:06 AM
Don't know if this could apply to our phones, but an interesting read anyway:

How AT&T Tracks Unauthorized Tethering On Your Jailbroken iPhone, And How To Hide It From Them | Redmond Pie (http://www.redmondpie.com/how-att-tracks-unauthorized-tethering-on-your-jailbroken-iphone-and-how-to-hide-it-from-them/)

Just imagine how much money AT&T spent on R & D, teams of people working on the prevention of "illegal" tethering, lost productivity on other tasks that thsse employees were responsible for, all for nothing. The community has already found the loophole. Hackers always win. The level of incompetance in the corporate world is amazing.

mikeinrichmond
05-16-2011, 08:17 PM
Just imagine how much money AT&T spent on R & D, teams of people working on the prevention of "illegal" tethering, lost productivity on other tasks that thsse employees were responsible for, all for nothing. The community has already found the loophole. Hackers always win. The level of incompetance in the corporate world is amazing.

Here's an interesting Tweet from P3:

"So a buddy was tagged for tethering and his account tagged, told he owed 350 plus data cancelled. If u tether u could end up like him. Now tell me how much I lied or say oops sorry for being an sashays. You know who you are. "

spodoc
05-16-2011, 08:49 PM
Some will say that is congruent with his position for the past month. Others will say it is more unsubstantiated scare tactics. I guess we will all find out at some point.

Snow02
05-16-2011, 09:13 PM
The guy's twitter said he was using 20+ GB of data monthly. He should have been busted.

Dvan
05-16-2011, 09:16 PM
Edit!

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mikeinrichmond
05-16-2011, 09:20 PM
More interesting, the guy received no warning letter, service just terminated and payment demanded...

spodoc
05-16-2011, 09:23 PM
Wondering how they demand payment after terminating services.

LazarusLong
05-16-2011, 09:25 PM
Or perhaps the $350 was for the phone ETF?

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mikeinrichmond
05-16-2011, 09:27 PM
Wondering how they demand payment after terminating services.

May be something in the ETF part of the contract, idk, or else that is just a bluff and they don't actually expect payment but are just glad to get him off the network...

spodoc
05-16-2011, 09:44 PM
I'm sure there is something in the TOS but how do they collect if you are no longer a customer? Could ding your credit though if you don't pay. For many adults, that hurts big time.

Vidfinnx
05-17-2011, 12:59 AM
Hmmmm I wonder very scary sounding

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chetqwerty
06-07-2011, 11:14 PM
Here's an interesting Tweet from P3:

"So a buddy was tagged for tethering and his account tagged, told he owed 350 plus data cancelled. If u tether u could end up like him. Now tell me how much I lied or say oops sorry for being an sashays. You know who you are. "


The guy's twitter said he was using 20+ GB of data monthly. He should have been busted.

Ooopsie! Left out some important info Mike! Don't need to be tethering to get in trouble for 20+ GB! Good for him is right, and thanks for the FULL story Snow.