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Droid-Xer
03-20-2011, 08:27 PM
This is in response to the bootloader being unlocked http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/21698-looks-like-x-bootloader-has-finally-been-cracked.html . Its merely rumor that maybe Motorola will release an update to re-encrypt the bootloader. So here's how to avoid an OTA:

IF YOU ARE ROOTED

Freeze the "updater2.2.1" in Titanium Backup (paid app $6.15) or Bloat Freezer (paid app $.99)

There's an "updater" file in system/bin. You can use Root Explorer (paid app ~$5) or SU File Manager (paid app $1.99) to add a .bak to the end of the file name. Not sure if it'll work, but it should.

Checking on other methods...


(NOTE: If you are on a blurless ROM: focused, liberty, UD, Cobalt, gummy, Obsidian, then there is no "updater2.2.1" so you will not even be able to download an OTA. Just do not go back to a stock ROM in the event an OTA comes out to re-encrypt the bootloader)


IF YOU ARE NOT ROOTED

1. Root using http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/13259-z4root-download-links-get-your-root-here.html
2. Follow above directions.

Garemlin
03-20-2011, 08:34 PM
Sticky for ya Rob

psychotic_penguin
03-20-2011, 08:36 PM
Thanks Rob...hope everyone sees this if in fact we've been unlocked

Droid-Xer
03-20-2011, 08:40 PM
Thanks G! Hopefully PP lol.

Sidenote: Does anyone know if the updater2.2.1 is also in Bloat Freezer app? I'm sure it is, but I just want to make sure before I add another paid app to the OP

mopar-x
03-20-2011, 08:41 PM
Frozen and waiting for more good news.

smalltowngirl13
03-20-2011, 08:43 PM
Thanks Rob!!

silver04v
03-20-2011, 08:45 PM
Thanks. Now I need to root my fiances dx when she gets her replacement in this week. Her original just had a pixel die on it. Annoying little red dot in the middle of the screen.

This thing is to much fun.

TideFan22
03-20-2011, 08:46 PM
Yeah thanks rob, for the heads up

Crystalized X

mikeinrichmond
03-20-2011, 08:49 PM
Great job putting this together on such short notice Rob!!

Never used Bloat freezer, but it sure sounds like it would from the description in the Market...

classact
03-20-2011, 08:51 PM
Thanks Rob, done.

maybish
03-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Pretty cool thanks!

~~**May's X**~~

WhiteLabelDon
03-20-2011, 08:55 PM
I can't wait for the new ROMS cyanogen mod...?

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macpro88
03-20-2011, 08:56 PM
Way to be on top of things! Great post!

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smalltowngirl13
03-20-2011, 08:58 PM
I downloaded Bloat Freezer - the updater 2.2.1 is in there and is showing "froze" since I had froze it with TiBu...

Droid-Xer
03-20-2011, 08:58 PM
Thanks STG!

Coronado is dead
03-20-2011, 08:59 PM
So... being on Liberty... any definitive ideas?

Droid-Xer
03-20-2011, 09:04 PM
If you stay on a blurless rom you cant even download the update. Just don't go back to stock if they ever drop another OTA

noXcuse
03-20-2011, 09:05 PM
Sidenote: Does anyone know if the updater2.2.1 is also in Bloat Freezer app? I'm sure it is, but I just want to make sure before I add another paid app to the OP

Yes, it's there. I use Bloat Freezer. Costs alot less than the paid version of TiBu. That's why my cheap@$$ got it. lol.

mikeinrichmond
03-20-2011, 09:05 PM
I downloaded Bloat Freezer - the updater 2.2.1 is in there and is showing "froze" since I had froze it with TiBu...

Way to take one for the Team!! :)

smalltowngirl13
03-20-2011, 09:13 PM
Way to take one for the Team!! :)

It is for the ultimate good right :big smile:....

gwilde
03-20-2011, 09:28 PM
Froze with TiBu

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rudyy
03-20-2011, 09:38 PM
perfect, thanks.

rooted, on liberty 1.5

RavenSoft
03-20-2011, 10:27 PM
what about if you are using a blur rom like apex? I thought once you went non-stock you could no longer get updates?

Droid-Xer
03-20-2011, 10:31 PM
what about if you are using a blur rom like apex? I thought once you went non-stock you could no longer get updates?

True, but this is just an added measure to ensure there's no possible way to get updated. With the updater frozen it will not automatically download any future updates. With apex or rubix blurry, the ota can still be downloaded.

akoe101
03-20-2011, 10:43 PM
Now what if i restored to stock and left the phone alone for like 20 minutes for it to settle from just flashing. Would it decide to update itself during that frame of time?

macpro88
03-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Now what if i restored to stock and left the phone alone for like 20 minutes for it to settle from just flashing. Would it decide to update itself during that frame of time?

Chances are slim, 20mins is probably not long enough, but it would only download, not install, it will prompt to install.

arefx
03-20-2011, 10:48 PM
Now what if i restored to stock and left the phone alone for like 20 minutes for it to settle from just flashing. Would it decide to update itself during that frame of time?

I wouldn't risk it. I probably wont be going back to stock so I don't care but if you really do flash to stock now freeze it then make a new backup so u can flash to stock with it frozen. Honestly I don't think moto will try to fix it since they released the xoom with an unlockable bootloader and don't seem tomind people sending in their xooms that have been unlocked.

akoe101
03-20-2011, 10:48 PM
Chances are slim, 20mins is probably not long enough, but it would only download, not install, it will prompt to install.

But eventually it would install?

giterdone
03-20-2011, 10:50 PM
Thanks Man!

macpro88
03-20-2011, 10:52 PM
But eventually it would install?

No, I don't think it will install without your permission, it will prompt you to install it a million times and get really annoying though, like Windows updates lol. I think it is actually illegal to install anything on someone else's device without fore knowledge.

akoe101
03-20-2011, 10:54 PM
No, I don't think it will install without your permission, it will prompt you to install it a million times and get really annoying though, like Windows updates lol. I think it is actually illegal to install anything on someone else's device without fore knowledge.

Youre probably right. I just dont want to have anything happen and have no way to downgrade or have somewhat custom gingerbread ROMs

scottfree
03-20-2011, 10:59 PM
I just froze updater 2.2.1 in tit backup pro am I cool? Its kinda vague on thread about news. Are they going to release an update to keep it from unlocking? I like to be very specific about android software.

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scottfree
03-20-2011, 11:06 PM
Happy i have T.Backup pro & TBH monster .340 monster updater zipBump!
I just froze updater 2.2.1 in tit backup pro am I cool? Its kinda vague on thread about news. Are they going to release an update to keep it from unlocking? I like to be very specific about android software.

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falcon9094
03-20-2011, 11:07 PM
Im on 3.4.2 and in bloat freezer all I find is updater is that what I want to freeze

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macpro88
03-20-2011, 11:59 PM
Im on 3.4.2 and in bloat freezer all I find is updater is that what I want to freeze

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Since you are on a leak and not official stock, you won't get the update.

joshw0000
03-21-2011, 12:39 AM
X-er, you may want to list Super Manager with Root Explorer. Is has similar features but it's less user friendly...but mainly it's free.

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Intimdtr77
03-21-2011, 01:16 AM
This is probably a silly question, but is it worth flashing to the stock ROM to freeze the updater before anything is released? I'm trying to think of a scenario that I would want to go back to stock?

Droid-Xer
03-21-2011, 01:22 AM
X-er, you may want to list Super Manager with Root Explorer. Is has similar features but it's less user friendly...but mainly it's free.

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I was going to list SM but I couldn't figure it out myself. If you're rooted, chances are you have either TiBU, Root Explorer, or Bloat Freezer

Droid-Xer
03-21-2011, 01:25 AM
This is probably a silly question, but is it worth flashing to the stock ROM to freeze the updater before anything is released? I'm trying to think of a scenario that I would want to go back to stock?

Eh it depends. If you want to be cautious ya just make a backup, flash a stock rom, freeze it, restore backup, and it should take maybe 5-10 minutes tops.

CAEM X
03-21-2011, 01:38 AM
Done thank you so much .

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Getsome122
03-21-2011, 01:48 AM
Using Bloat freezer it will just show Updater...

So if anyone else is wondering, yes that is the one you want to freeze if thats the app you are using to do so.

WugFresh
03-21-2011, 03:02 AM
No, I don't think it will install without your permission, it will prompt you to install it a million times and get really annoying though, like Windows updates lol. I think it is actually illegal to install anything on someone else's device without fore knowledge.

+1, you would have to authenticated it first. Seccondly, even if you downloaded it, it shouldn't successfully install unless you had all the stock files. OTA's verify your system first.

{{ WugFresh }}

TeeX
03-21-2011, 04:34 AM
great news!
thank you for this thread.

joshw0000
03-21-2011, 07:28 AM
I was going to list SM but I couldn't figure it out myself. If you're rooted, chances are you have either TiBU, Root Explorer, or Bloat Freezer

Yea, I actually didn't think it had root access until someone told me to go into settings and enable it. But you're right, most of us have the good ones.

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Luckster
03-21-2011, 07:35 AM
So i wont have to worry about anything if im on Liberty(1.5)?

WugFresh
03-21-2011, 07:36 AM
So i wont have to worry about anything if im on Liberty(1.5)?

Correct.

{{ WugFresh }}

cynkrzy
03-21-2011, 09:36 AM
Rubix Focused 2.0.1: system\bin\updater - does anyone know what the purpose of this file is ? I understand everyone is saying there is no need to worry about non-blurry roms, but I am curious.

Droid-Xer
03-21-2011, 09:59 AM
The updater is what checks for updates. It will grab updates automatically or you can manually check by going to settings/about phone/system updates. If you freeze/rename it it will not be actively looking for an update should Motorola push one.

dbisch
03-21-2011, 10:10 AM
I really don't have to worry about freezing if I'm using Fission, right?

cynkrzy
03-21-2011, 10:11 AM
The updater is what checks for updates. It will grab updates automatically or you can manually check by going to settings/about phone/system updates. If you freeze/rename it it will not be actively looking for an update should Motorola push one.

Then even Rubix would require that file to be frozen to prevent an OTA ?

wikkdwarrior
03-21-2011, 10:18 AM
Ok...quick question...if I don't have the paid TB app...can I just uninstall updater using free version of TB?

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Droid-Xer
03-21-2011, 10:29 AM
Don't uninstall it. I'm not sure if you can freeze in the free app. Bloat freezer is only. 99

noXcuse
03-21-2011, 11:26 AM
You cannot freeze with the free version of TiBu. That's why I bought Bloat Freezer. It is on sale right now for $0.99

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mikeinrichmond
03-21-2011, 11:28 AM
No you can't freeze in the free version of TiBu...

Since I have a good backup and was in an experimenting mood, I just used Root Explorer to delete /system/bin/updater no ill effects that I have seen in the 3 hours since... :)

Running Liberty 1.5 BTW...

wikkdwarrior
03-21-2011, 11:52 AM
Ok...I also just went ahead and deleted it with the free Ti Bu and I'm not having any problems so far...only been a few hours. I'll keep every one up to date as to wether this is a viable solution


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WugFresh
03-21-2011, 11:55 AM
I really don't have to worry about freezing if I'm using Fission, right?

Correct.

{{ WugFresh }}

dbisch
03-21-2011, 12:17 PM
Thanks.

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goblueboy
03-21-2011, 05:22 PM
you should close this thread. or atleast unsticky it

Droid-Xer
03-21-2011, 05:23 PM
:cry:.....

mikeinrichmond
03-21-2011, 05:26 PM
Hey, at least we know now that the updater can be deleted without any ill effects...

joshw0000
03-21-2011, 07:08 PM
So now that we know this was a hoax and he was jumping the gun on a educated guess, does anything in his statement make any sense and/or bring anyone any closer to unlocking this thing?

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WugFresh
03-21-2011, 07:17 PM
What he said about doing hash collisions with the public key is theoretically viable... but I don't think anyone who is working on this is attacking it from a purely mathematic approach nor is capable of (to my knowledge). I could be wrong, but I think everyone is working with aliasxerog custom kernels and trying to reverse engineer the radio baseband drivers... that remains our best bet right now... not happening anytime soon. In good news p3droid mentioned gingerbread coming "soonish" whatever that means...

{{ WugFresh }}

goblueboy
03-21-2011, 10:10 PM
What he said about doing hash collisions with the public key is theoretically viable... but I don't think anyone who is working on this is attacking it from a purely mathematic approach nor is capable of (to my knowledge). I could be wrong, but I think everyone is working with aliasxerog custom kernels and trying to reverse engineer the radio baseband drivers... that remains our best bet right now... not happening anytime soon. In good news p3droid mentioned gingerbread coming "soonish" whatever that means...

{{ WugFresh }}

saw this too. i thought i saw someone where on this forum a guide on how to be ready for a update. i would really love to know how to be prepared and do everything i need to before the update.

Droid-Xer
03-21-2011, 11:03 PM
It's my guide in hacking help. It's "how to be ready for anything "

mastertech007
03-24-2011, 08:31 AM
Did you do a battery pull and complete reboot?


Ok...I also just went ahead and deleted it with the free Ti Bu and I'm not having any problems so far...only been a few hours. I'll keep every one up to date as to wether this is a viable solution


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goldsmitht
03-24-2011, 10:11 AM
Help: i froze the updater with TI, but now seems like i don't get update notices from market; is this a side-affect? more annoying than problematic, however, was just curious:crazy:

Droid-Xer
03-24-2011, 10:14 AM
Help: i froze the updater with TI, but now seems like i don't get update notices from market; is this a side-affect? more annoying than problematic, however, was just curious:crazy:

Did you freeze the "market updater" or "updater"? They are both there

goldsmitht
03-24-2011, 02:06 PM
Did you freeze the "market updater" or "updater"? They are both there

nope, i actually checked, cuz i'm old and forgetful, but it's normal

Droid-Xer
03-24-2011, 02:35 PM
Then just defrost and update the market. Bootloaders still locked and will remain locked so no worries

silver04v
03-24-2011, 06:54 PM
So everyone that froze this isn't facing any issues yet after doing so? All set after a reboot and all?

This thing is to much fun.

Droid-Xer
03-24-2011, 07:01 PM
So everyone that froze this isn't facing any issues yet after doing so? All set after a reboot and all?

This thing is to much fun.

You're not freezing anything major. There should be no issues after a defrost.

Androidz
04-09-2011, 08:31 PM
Any instructions for doing this in the current 2.3.3 GB release so we can prevent forced updates that may add features we do not like in the upcoming OTA release? I found updater 2.3.3 and froze it, then manually checked for updates and received an error, however I also get this error when going to "My Apps" in the Market so they both use the same Updater in GB.

Possibly leaving Updater 2.3.3 enabled but renaming Updater to .apk might work and still allow MyApps to be updated?

Droid-Xer
04-09-2011, 09:10 PM
In ginger theres a 2.3.3updater and 2.3.3 market updater. Just freeze the 2.3.3updater

Androidz
04-10-2011, 08:12 PM
Well this is odd, the other day when I froze the updater in TI it worked however today even freezing both updaters I am still able to use the android updater and market updater, seems TI is not freezing them....

Any ideas?


EDIT: Forced uninstall with TI and updater still works and now TI won't let me restore it, LOL, whats going on?

Droid-Xer
04-11-2011, 01:40 AM
You can't delete it unless you have a backup. Freezing should disable it. Not sure what the issue could be. Did you have chuck norris mode enabled?

Androidz
04-12-2011, 12:27 AM
You can't delete it unless you have a backup. Freezing should disable it. Not sure what the issue could be. Did you have chuck norris mode enabled?


Chuck Norris is enabled, maybe I should reinstall TI because it was working before and I didn't make any changes to the phone except some personalization.

Any ideas?

Droid-Xer
04-12-2011, 01:14 AM
Maybe. Try that. Or on the main screen of TiBU is a fix problems option. Do that first.

ssPerman01
10-06-2011, 03:34 AM
hi, please tell me how to use command line "updater" in /system/bin/ , share example use its for me,
thanks.