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d22996
12-08-2010, 05:42 PM
Had a freaky experience the other night. Had my phone on the charger for a bit, and happened to walk by and see it lit up. To my surprise my keyboard was lit, and letters were being typed randomly. Then as with purpose, the menu popped up, my contacts were selected, then the screen started scrolling as if to be looking for a particular contact. I selected cancel to exit to the main screen, and noticed that my phone was placed on AIRPLANE mode. (This is selcected from another screen completely separate from the main menu screen) It was as if someone was logged onto my phone remotely. The only thing I could think to do is take out the battery. I left the battery out for a few minutes then turned it back on. Then the hacking started again. First with trying to slide the unlock key across the screen with several failed attempts. I wanted to be sure it was not a software glitch, so I unlocked the phone from my end. And surely enough, whomever was hacking my phone, slid the screen to go to my favorites, selected one of my friends to view profile, then closed it, and went to another friend and their profile. From there, they went back to my contacts, and started browsing again. I quickly locked my phone and took the battery back out.

I called Verizon, and they assured me it just haaaad to be a software glitch, that it was not possible for my phone to be hacked. But, to sooth my mind, they gave me the number to motorola, since they are the manufactures of the Droid X. The rep there said I indeed had been hacked. That contary to what Verizon told me, that I needed anti-virus software and a firewall on my phone immediately! They also said not to do any personal banking or store passwords on my phone at all just to be safe.

Ok, enough said about that. How is it possible for them to get on my phone, hit airplane mode and still have access to my phone remotely? What do they have to gain from doing this? Also, what is the best apps to install for anti-virus and firewalls on my Droid X?

Thanks for your time!
Dee

iDr0id
12-08-2010, 05:45 PM
First android virus victim? That's crazy freaky

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iDr0id
12-08-2010, 05:46 PM
Oh and if it was in airplane mode. How would one gain acesss remotely? Id system restore it to be safe

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d22996
12-08-2010, 05:49 PM
It was not in Airplane mode when I placed in on the charger. It also cannot be accessed by accident because you would have to scroll over 2 screens to hit the Airplane wigit. :o(

1KDS
12-08-2010, 05:50 PM
+1 airplane mode disables all connections, so I don't see how anyone could have control of it at that point

psychotic_penguin
12-08-2010, 05:53 PM
Airplane Mode = No data in no data out...period.

Did you install some apps and give permissions without realizing you did? The warnings your phone flashes up prior to installing an app are annoying, but sometimes you just have to read what they say and do a bit of background before you give it access to your phone.

I'd sbf and start all over again.

1KDS
12-08-2010, 05:54 PM
The question is, how are they accessing it? would an sbf cut them off?

Droid-Xer
12-08-2010, 05:55 PM
+1 gotta watch who you're giving permissions to when you download apps!

d22996
12-08-2010, 06:01 PM
Newest app I downloaded was Prey in case my Droid should ever become stolen....it will track the phone's location. Wonder if that could be it?

Droid-Xer
12-08-2010, 06:06 PM
Maybe, the app seems to need a lot of access. I don't see the permissions on the webpage, but I imagine there was quite a few it needed.

noXcuse
12-08-2010, 06:09 PM
Your house is haunted.

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Droid-Xer
12-08-2010, 06:10 PM
Can you say TRON experience???

d22996
12-08-2010, 06:14 PM
I appreciate all your comments. Very helpful. :) Thanks.

PS

Still need suggestions on the anti-virus software and firewalls????

Droid-Xer
12-08-2010, 06:15 PM
No need for firewalls and I use anti-virus by avg

d22996
12-08-2010, 06:18 PM
No need for firewalls and I use anti-virus by avg

Any out there you think is better then another?

FromBBtoDroid
12-08-2010, 06:21 PM
I appreciate all your comments. Very helpful. :) Thanks.

PS

Still need suggestions on the anti-virus software and firewalls????

I like Lookout a lot, although I've never used AVG to give you a comparison.

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trenton
12-08-2010, 06:25 PM
Hey D22996 is your phone rooted? Are you running a rom? Which rom? And do you have a lot of low rated/un popular apps that seemed iffy when u downloaded them.

Droid-Xer
12-08-2010, 06:31 PM
Its called anti virus, just market search it, its a little pill. I've only used this one so I can't speak of any other.

d22996
12-08-2010, 06:33 PM
Hey D22996 is your phone rooted? Are you running a rom? Which rom? And do you have a lot of low rated/un popular apps that seemed iffy when u downloaded them.

Not Rooted, not running a ROM (at least I don't think so) and ......all apps I installed were highly rated.

d22996
12-08-2010, 06:34 PM
Thanks...:)

DebianDog
12-08-2010, 06:42 PM
You do not need to run AV on your phone and this is a total BS post if it was in Airplane mode. Unless you loaded some app that simulated typing / ghost.

newdroidx
12-08-2010, 07:03 PM
I dunno, but if its true that sucks. I dont understand why OP would make a story like this up... Bored? I use lookout, I like it. Ive never used another so I cant say if one is better than another.

1KDS
12-08-2010, 07:41 PM
maybe it's an iPhan trying to scare us? DD is right airplane mode means zero connectivity

trenton
12-08-2010, 07:55 PM
Who knows . Someone could have hacked the phone and it showed airplane mode because of a glitch. I think People would only hack the phone looking for credit card info or maybe some homemade porno lol. I'm gona do some googleing about android hacking. I'm interested

trenton
12-08-2010, 08:12 PM
Ok d22996 I got a little advice for you. If someone is hacking your phone they more than likley have your phone number so if it gets really bad, changing your phone number would be the best way to lose em. If changing numbers is just NT an option I would recommend turning off your GPS when ur not using it . And don't talk about anything illegal. Including texts and emails......it could be the cops!!!!!!!!

joshw0000
12-08-2010, 08:18 PM
Maybe the government is spying on you. Planning any terrorist attacks? Purchased any fertilizer lately?

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t.crawford714
12-08-2010, 08:39 PM
Exactly, you were the prey, haha. Could someone do this if they changed their callback number to yours?

Kmasum
12-08-2010, 08:39 PM
This is some scary ****

-against app piracy droid X tapatalk

Anthodroid
12-08-2010, 08:40 PM
What is a "Dorid X"?


Was your phone connected to a wifi network when it happened? If so , was it your home network? Secured? Wifi still works in airplane mode.

gman
12-08-2010, 09:04 PM
First off there is no real airplane "mode". When you select airplane mode all you are doing is telling the phone to send command to hardware to turn off the radio and turn off wifi. Its not really an actual hardware mode but more of a software state. Your phone can be in airplane mode and then have another app turn on the cell radio and wifi and still have the android display show phone as being in "airplane mode". This is possible because airplane mode is a software state in the os not a state programmed into the hardware or phone.
Anti virus on the droid phones is a waste of time as what you're trying to avoid is malware not viruses. None of the av offerings can protect you from an unknown threat. If anything they give you a false sense of security.
There are hundreds of known malicious apps for android phones. They don't need exploit to get on your phone as people download and install then every day from the marketplace and blindly give the app permission.
Even if you don't give the app permissions to everything the fact that these phones are rootable means virtually any app you install can easily obtain root privileges anyway with out thought permission.
The only real protection you have for you phone is common sense and restraint. Only install apps with proven track record, only from reliable sources, and keep an eye on what permissions an app ask for at install time and make sure its reasonable for what the app needs to do.

Sent from my DROIDX

1KDS
12-08-2010, 09:31 PM
Is there any way to edit an app's permissions? I know you could do this on BB, of course if you did certain things apps wouldn't function properly

LilTortillaBoy
12-08-2010, 11:44 PM
I remember seeing something on the news years ago about phone hacking. I don't recall to much other than the person wanting to do the hacking has to download a certain program to your phone from your phone and then on to his/hers to have access. It had something to do with keeping tabs on your spouse to see if they're cheating. You can buy these things from online sites. They give access to your phones camera and speaker as well. I've thought about doing it to my boss cell phone. =)

LilTortillaBoy
12-08-2010, 11:47 PM
In order to get rid of it though I think you have to find the program because the phone number change idea wont work.

IntenseImage
12-09-2010, 01:21 PM
I would have grabbed a camera ASAP to get it on vid!

Good luck trying to sort it out.

joeyjackpot
12-09-2010, 01:29 PM
lol who downloads an app called Prey? that's like downloading an anti virus app called Victim.

newdroidx
12-09-2010, 02:17 PM
lol who downloads an app called Prey? that's like downloading an anti virus app called Victim.


LMAO Right??

DebianDog
12-10-2010, 06:12 AM
I 100% agree with your summary but...

I have never found an app that can trick airplane mode. If you activate a connection it won't connect or turn back on. It may light up in the app you are in but you will not see the icon in the task bar nor will it function.

Just because you are rooted does not mean apps can grant themselves special permissions. People are just dumb asses and click OK without reading. Rooting in no way changes this. An app must ask for permission. If you are paranoid you can change the su options to ask everytime.

If you download from the market. Pay attention to exactly what you are downloading. Watch what the app asks for when it installs. i.e. a game should not need to see your contacts and a chat programs should not need root. You will be fine.

For most people, if you do get exploited, it will probably be with everyone else and the door will be a common app like Twitter or plug-in like Flash and no AV program is going to stop that unless it is so intense your phone would be clocking cycles like crazy everytime you did anything.


First off there is no real airplane "mode". When you select airplane mode all you are doing is telling the phone to send command to hardware to turn off the radio and turn off wifi. Its not really an actual hardware mode but more of a software state. Your phone can be in airplane mode and then have another app turn on the cell radio and wifi and still have the android display show phone as being in "airplane mode". This is possible because airplane mode is a software state in the os not a state programmed into the hardware or phone.
Anti virus on the droid phones is a waste of time as what you're trying to avoid is malware not viruses. None of the av offerings can protect you from an unknown threat. If anything they give you a false sense of security.
There are hundreds of known malicious apps for android phones. They don't need exploit to get on your phone as people download and install then every day from the marketplace and blindly give the app permission.
Even if you don't give the app permissions to everything the fact that these phones are rootable means virtually any app you install can easily obtain root privileges anyway with out thought permission.
The only real protection you have for you phone is common sense and restraint. Only install apps with proven track record, only from reliable sources, and keep an eye on what permissions an app ask for at install time and make sure its reasonable for what the app needs to do.

Sent from my DROIDX



Swyped on my X

joeyjackpot
12-10-2010, 08:18 AM
Let's try this.

Toggle on airplane mode.

Now toggle on wifi.

Whoops. There goes that whole, "AIRPLANE MODE ALLOWS NO CONNECTIONS!"

nope... airplane mode turns off the radio/wifi/bluetooth, but doesn't STOP other programs from turning it back on while still IN "Airplane mode".

Like the poster said - airplane mode isn't a hardware setting - it's a toggle that automatically goes in and does a ONE TIME toggle-off for data, bluetooth, cdma radio, wifi, gps, and all other wireless connections. But it doesn't force them to stay toggled off. Untoggling airplane mode is just a ONE TIME toggle-on for data/cell. It's a shortcut to settings in your menu, it's not a different hardware state, and you can certainly activate certain wireless capabilities/connections without officially "leaving" airplane mode... some airplanes have wifi now but still require that you stop your cell radio from working...

hobby31
12-10-2010, 09:51 AM
You say this happened while you had it charging? Were you using an after market charger or the one that came with the phone? On the Droid 1 it was a common problem with after market chargers for the screen to go haywire. Some people reported exactly what you are reporting. I had the charging dock but used an aftermarket charger on it and my touchscreen would go haywire at times. I never had it do what you are reporting but touchscreen would sometimes not respond, clicking on the music icon would open pictures, clicking pictures would open the weather, etc... also trying to unlock would take a few attempts. Putting the original charger back on the dock would fix it. I do remember some people reporting "my droid is haunted! It's calling people while I'm asleep!" Most of the time it came down to using aftermarket chargers.

joeyjackpot
12-10-2010, 10:03 AM
You say this happened while you had it charging? Were you using an after market charger or the one that came with the phone? On the Droid 1 it was a common problem with after market chargers for the screen to go haywire. Some people reported exactly what you are reporting. I had the charging dock but used an aftermarket charger on it and my touchscreen would go haywire at times. I never had it do what you are reporting but touchscreen would sometimes not respond, clicking on the music icon would open pictures, clicking pictures would open the weather, etc... also trying to unlock would take a few attempts. Putting the original charger back on the dock would fix it. I do remember some people reporting "my droid is haunted! It's calling people while I'm asleep!" Most of the time it came down to using aftermarket chargers.

that's NUTTY.

CrAsH_OvErIdE
12-10-2010, 10:45 AM
(Bangs head on wall!)

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CrAsH_OvErIdE
12-10-2010, 10:46 AM
"There always has to be at least one!"

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hollywood
12-10-2010, 10:59 AM
First off there is no real airplane "mode". When you select airplane mode all you are doing is telling the phone to send command to hardware to turn off the radio and turn off wifi. Its not really an actual hardware mode but more of a software state. Your phone can be in airplane mode and then have another app turn on the cell radio and wifi and still have the android display show phone as being in "airplane mode". This is possible because airplane mode is a software state in the os not a state programmed into the hardware or phone.
Anti virus on the droid phones is a waste of time as what you're trying to avoid is malware not viruses. None of the av offerings can protect you from an unknown threat. If anything they give you a false sense of security.
There are hundreds of known malicious apps for android phones. They don't need exploit to get on your phone as people download and install then every day from the marketplace and blindly give the app permission.
Even if you don't give the app permissions to everything the fact that these phones are rootable means virtually any app you install can easily obtain root privileges anyway with out thought permission.
The only real protection you have for you phone is common sense and restraint. Only install apps with proven track record, only from reliable sources, and keep an eye on what permissions an app ask for at install time and make sure its reasonable for what the app needs to do.

Sent from my DROIDX

Very well put. :) I was going to say something along the lines of that myself after I read all the other posts...

And yup. I'd call Ghostbusters, cuz there's a poltergeist in your house, and he's addicted to your phone...

j3t
12-10-2010, 11:08 AM
So much fail in this thread. OP is a troll and replies are laughable.

joeyjackpot
12-10-2010, 01:02 PM
So much fail in this thread. OP is a troll and replies are laughable.

it's good to see you're part of the problem.

hobby31
12-10-2010, 03:05 PM
that's NUTTY.

It might be NUTTY but its absolutely true. You can go over to droidforums.net and check it out. I can remember at least three posts about it when the original droid first came out. Switching back the the factory charger usually fixed it. My daughter has the droid incredible and has both an aftermarket charge and the factory one. Her touch screen is almost inoperable while on the after market one but it charges. It's something to do with having the right voltage from the charger.

joeyjackpot
12-10-2010, 03:34 PM
It might be NUTTY but its absolutely true. You can go over to droidforums.net and check it out. I can remember at least three posts about it when the original droid first came out. Switching back the the factory charger usually fixed it. My daughter has the droid incredible and has both an aftermarket charge and the factory one. Her touch screen is almost inoperable while on the after market one but it charges. It's something to do with having the right voltage from the charger.

oh i wasn't saying it's false, just saying, wow, that's f-cking bananas that a bad charger can do that!

hollywood
12-10-2010, 03:55 PM
It might be NUTTY but its absolutely true. You can go over to droidforums.net and check it out. I can remember at least three posts about it when the original droid first came out. Switching back the the factory charger usually fixed it. My daughter has the droid incredible and has both an aftermarket charge and the factory one. Her touch screen is almost inoperable while on the after market one but it charges. It's something to do with having the right voltage from the charger.

If it is still doing it, you should post a video.... :)

Bungle
12-10-2010, 05:11 PM
And yup. I'd call Ghostbusters, cuz there's a poltergeist in your house, and he's addicted to your phone...

I lol'd.

Then I thought about a great idea for a fake droid x commercial about a guy who moves into a house that turns out to be haunted. Then he gets a droid X and has no problems sleeping at night anymore...
Except he wakes up to a dead battery every day.

Abe21599
12-10-2010, 05:17 PM
this has run its course

closed.